Follow up about the Jews - Chosen people? (Oregon Flower)?

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Only through Christ can one be saved. While Jews are chosen, they have not yet chosen Christ, therefore, they are not saved. Muslims follow a false prophet, therefore a false religion, similar to Mormonism, which is also a false religion and has a false prophet.



Ok, so the part about the Jews being chosen but not choosing Jesus.... Was choosing Jesus expressed in the bible as part of the covenant between God and Abraham? Does the bible also not say, "Surely, I, the Lord, do not change." So if that's true, then the claim above is that God went back on his word and un-chose the Jews. Unless one says that all Jews broke the covenant and it's void anyway.



Kind of a moot point though. Since we are descended from other animals and not from Adam, we had no original sin, and don't need inherent salvation.



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Follow up about the Jews - Chosen people? (Oregon Flower)?
And your question was?
Reply:Your quote of God not changing. Your understanding is contrary to the context.



Try reading it.



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Reply:God has appointed a seed of Abraham (Gen.17) In his seed shall all nations be blessed. (Gen. 22:17-18). which means that from the nation Israel, a seed of Abraham would be born. and Israel shall be a channel of blessing of God so that other nations will also be blessed. That seed is Christ (Gal.3:16). If you are Christ's, you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise (Gal. 3:29).



God did not break His covenant. It was because of the Jews' unbelief. (Acts 28:26-27), and salvation is sent to the Gentiles (Acts 28:28). God will one day restore the nation Israel. It will happen in the future though..(book of revelations)
Reply:With baptism we are set apart and become sons and daughters of God

we as Christians believe in the same God and the same revelation they do, plus the New Testament. As the Holy Father once pointed out, Christians are all "spiritual Semites" (spiritually united with the Jews and the faith of Abraham). Basically, Christians are what you could call "Messianic Jews", that is, we are "adopted" Jews who believe Jesus was the long awaited Jewish Messiah…the Savior. We have been grafted into the family tree. Of course, our faith has grown considerably from there as well. While we have significant theological differences with traditional Judaism (primarily revolving around Christ), our understanding of morality is of the same basic cloth.



We should never forget our roots. We should never forget that Jesus was a Jew (who attended synagogue), as were his mother and adoptive father, all the apostles and even the first pope (Peter). Almost all of the first "believers" were Jews, and they all attended synagogue as well. While it is true that some Jews called for His execution (particularly those threatened by Jesus as a potential leader who threatened their hold on power) , the Catechism reminds us that every human who has ever lived bears responsibility for his crucifixion. We are all responsible.



As Christians, we believe that, in rejecting Jesus, most of the Jews rejected their own Messiah, as prophecy foretold (Isaiah 53:3-4, Hosea 11:4). As the apostle Paul points out in Romans 11, this is part of a mystery, wherein God used their lack of faith-response in order to bring the Gentiles (non-Jews) into His family. While there continue to be Jews who come to accept Jesus as the Jewish Messiah throughout history, we prayerfully hope for the day when the Jews will most fully come to accept Jesus and be "grafted back into the tree" (which St. Paul also writes about in Romans 11).